Hunter's Insight – A Guild Wars 2 Blog

Winds Of Part 2

The official Winds of Change webpage.

After a summer of waiting, Winds of Change Part Two finally came out on Thursday. I immediately set about to see if the same problems that plagued part one continued.

I’m happy to say that Part Two is a much better experience. The grind of “go here, kill stuff” is an ever-present Guild Wars staple but it is softened somewhat in the 12 quests released on the 29th.

The first quest (or quest 18 here) means for you to run away from your problems instead of fighting it out, the second quest has you rush to the aid of NPCs, while the third quest has an interesting game mechanic that frustrated some, but provided a nice surprise for all.

Instantly I was having more fun here than in the first 17 quests. Cleanse this, cleanse that, benign dialogue that leads up to a sudden twist. I could be less impressed by Part One, but not by much.

Even the story in Part Two ramps up. There is more going on, there is more danger. It’s a little bit akin to our history with the White Mantle but certainly has its own momentum and justification. To be honest a lot of the story in Part Two owes its interesting turns to what was set up in Part One, despite its overlong telling. Credit where it’s due.

Quests 4 through 6 set up a subplot mystery involving the gangs of Kaineng. Just what are they up to? We don’t find out in Part Two. The fights they involve are pretty straightforward. It was nice to see enemy mobs purposefully set against one another however.

That’s followed by The Rescue Attempt, which is very reminiscent of the Tahnakai Temple mission, seeing as it takes place in the same spot in the same way, but does add a small mechanic that makes the quest more interesting if you don’t notice it.

In the end though the middle quests, while at times having interesting story, are mostly filler. The final quests involving the tengu are much more interesting. We’re finally starting to get an idea of what will happen to them before Guild Wars 2 where apparently they’ve either been kicked out of Cantha or massacred.

You get a nice readable quest item that adds a bit of credibility to the quest with Warning the Angchu, a bit of a challenge since it’s a 4 person group, and then we move into a bit of a subplot which has a somewhat surprising ending. I think I enjoyed the story here more than anywhere else in Winds of Change.

The rewards for the tengu quests are better too. Most previous quests have little but imperial commendations, ministerial commendations, or requisition forms. There isn’t even anything to turn forms in for yet, and the only new rewards are Factions weapons that had yet to have inscription slots available. Faction skins in a more usable form are great, but I’m hoping rewards end up matching War In Kryta or even improving upon them. Getting a Royal Gift with useless xp scrolls was disappointing.

I’ve recently noticed a disparity between the availability of affordable sweet points and affordable booze or party points Live Team.

I guess Part One was really just getting things out of the way. It still feels boring and grindy, but now that I’m in Part Two I feel like I’m well on my way, the foundations have been laid and I can look forward to just exactly how this mess is going to end up before Guild Wars 2.

Guild Wars Lately

Lately in Guild Wars I’ve been relegated to doing some pretty boring stuff. It all started back when the Hall of Monuments Calculator was released about 11 months ago.

So this will be kind of a long post.

The first time I looked myself up, I already had around 36 points. Very quickly I got that to around 40 and since I was helping people get their points, I figured I might as well go to 45. Upon reaching 45, I found I was accidentally still gaining points through things like War in Kryta and the opressor weapons, and finally I came to a point where all I really needed were a few minis to get to 50.

At 50 points I thought I was done. I was wrong.

I had 26 titles at this point, only 4 titles away from the God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals title which also carries over to Guild Wars 2.

Unfortunately the easiest titles appeared to be sweets, party points, booze and survivor. So I wasn’t sure if I wanted to continue.

I started looking around at prices, availability, and the easiest way to get survivor.

Life of the Party is by far the easiest consumable title to get. Availability for purchase far outstretches booze or sweets. There’s always someone selling tonics or other items in Kamadan, not to mention there are more festivals giving out more party points than the other titles.

Booze is also available in Kama but I could never find affordable sweet points. This caused me to start looking at other options.

Along with doing the weekly Nicholas scavenger hunt, I quickly realized that the most productive way to work on your consumable title is to start a character in pre searing. This paid many dividends. Pre searing has a collector. He takes 25 collectible items in return for 5 gifts of the huntsmen daily. A single GOTH can return as much as 20 sweet points or 30 booze points. Worst case scenario is 10 party, booze, or sweet points for a single gift. I bought GOTH, traded dyes for GOTH, gave collectible items away in hopes of receiving GOTH as a thank you, I was a whore for GOTH.

I now have a level 18 character in Pre sear.

Booze title done, Party title done. Which leads me to believe there is some kind of crazy imbalance with sweet points compared to the other two.

I’m still working on the sweets title, but I also managed to finish off my survivor, which I was beginning to give up hope on.

I guess I’m just not good at staying alive full time. When you’re in a party with a bunch of chickens all working on their survivor title and they’d rather heal themselves than you, that means you have to first make a note of who you’ll need vengeance against later, and second look out for yourself.

I made around 500k from doing campaign books. It takes a while to finish these off unless you really apply yourself. The survivor title is something like 1.3 million xp so I had a long way to go until someone convinced me to try out the Vaettir farming in hard mode out in Jaga Moraine.

I’d only ever heard of people doing it with Shadowform or gimmicky builds and honestly didn’t see myself pulling it off. Not without dying once in a while. Then someone in vent described it as “easy”. Challenge Accepted.

I threw together an obsidian flesh build, not the one I found on youtube since it seemed to be too focused on speed with little room for error. I figured I’d have more patience if I wasn’t dying all the time, so I put in some safety measures.

Anyway, inside of a day I had the survivor title. So now I’m just farming out GOTH and GOTT from nick, doing War in Kryta quests since war supplies give sweet points (no matter what the wiki says) and waiting on Halloween. There is a repeatable quest I believe I’m about to bang my head against until I get the title.

The only other thing I’ve been up to is Hamstorm! Every time Alliance Battles comes up as the Zaishen Combat, expect to see a party of 4 people with pets shouting HAMSTORM! No it is not firestorm and hamstring.

Aside from Winds of Change content which I’ve blogged about before and will be blogging about part 2 soon, that’s about it. Pretty effing boring. To sum up, it was a bunch of farming. My own fault really, for not moving on to another game by now.

Questing In Winds

I left off my Winds of Change adventure last time after the 3rd quest. Those first 3 ease you into the WoC campaign but aren’t particularly entertaining. The 3rd quest provided a more interesting challenge but I didn’t find enough variety overall.

And that was only in the first 3 quests.

The next 3 are much the same. Go here, kill this and a slightly fun and challenging quest to round it out.

The 6th quest in question, Cleansing Pongmei Valley, only has the one group to defeat, but it has an interesting boss. A monstrously sized afflicted warrior that uses a fairly good wammo build that includes Mending Touch and Shield of Absorption. He takes a while to put down and is a bit of a surprise to fight the first time, but I wouldn’t necessarily say he was a problem.

Reminds me of Juggernaut

After that quest there is a bit of a change up.

Minister Cho’s Estate might actually be a bit difficult. My first time through was just me and some Heroes. A minion master, monk, SS, and my elementalist main. This didn’t really make for a good combination.

The problem was the group size. The majority of difficult content in Guild Wars is set for 8 people. When you suddenly become a group of 4, like in the Hard Mode Titan quest Last Day Dawns, you’re suddenly on unfamiliar ground. Virtually every high level team build I’ve ever played is designed for 8 people.

Rescue at Minister Cho’s Estate is much the same.

The difficulty is compounded by the numerous bad aggro situations, and the quest having zero directional guidance. It’s pretty rare for a Guild Wars quest to not tell you exactly where to go.

Overall this results in both good and bad points.

On the good side the small group size forces people to think about what they’re group makeup should be. They aren’t coddled with exact directions and have to use their brains. It’s a challenge.

On the bad side the small group size means that even though Winds of Change is one of the few times large groups can form, they’ll have to split up for this quest. Blindly wandering around just leads to really bad aggro situations. There will be people whining about what a challenge it is.

My second time through the quest, I had a much easier time of it. A real person healing, with real people doing their jobs correctly, really helped. Part of the challenge may have simply been the unfamiliarity with the content, which can only be a good thing at this point in Guild Wars’ life.

Next time I’ll talk about Haiju Lagoon, one of the best quests in the series so far, and Cleaning Zen Daijun, one of the worst.

Winds Of Chang

Community fans rejoice

Winds of Change didn’t really start off with much of a bang. The update was added and with no further adieu people started questing.

By the time I got online people were plowing through the quests and a large crowd had gathered around the quest giver in Kaineng Center, skill point flourishes going off every few seconds.

I grabbed Cleansing Bukdek Byway and my most faithful heroes and headed out, hoping to get an idea of what the quests would be like before my usual play group got online. Cleansing Bukdek is a very straightforward quest, there are 3 groups of afflicted and without any special build on my part they all went down pretty fast.

I will say it does make for a good tutorial on the new afflicted enemies. When War in Kryta came along, so did more interesting and complex builds for mobs. Instead of basic and limited skill bars, Peacekeepers and now Afflicted have skill bars that keep you on your toes and actually watching to see what skills they are using.

Just as an example, for years now the necromancer minion master has been just about the most powerful build in the game. Afflicted necromancers in Winds of Change can either be minion masters themselves, or use Verata’s Aura to steal minions from human players. A fiendishly clever counter to the Over Powered builds players have been using for a long time.

The result of these more complex builds is longer more intricate fights. Certainly you need to call targets, figure out who to attack first, and if you’ve got the resources haul out the old summoning stone or consumable item.

The first 2 quests were kind of a breeze, starter quests I suppose. The third quest is a bit different, Shenzun Tunnels. Thankfully you can start out pretty close by, I think I even saw a new Am Fah boss at one point, though I can’t remember his name. In any case I got to the location pinpointed on my map and quickly thought to move out of the center, because there seemed to be multiple entrances. Sure enough waves of groups kept entering from various directions, and even the location I had chosen had groups coming in from behind and I nearly wiped.

It was the first challenging quest and it was the most fun by far.

It was over all too soon and frankly, there wasn’t much to it beyond the waves of enemies.

The story was far too straightforward. No interesting quest dialogue, no interesting background, or characters. Just go out there and clean Cantha up. Get rid of the afflicted, that’s your motivation and goal.

The quests were too straightforward, though I’ll give them points for easing people into it. Go here, kill stuff, typical Guild Wars quest. No surprises.

The locations are a bit… thorough. Apparently it’s a countryside tour of the entire campaign. Each and every zone will get its due before this is over. At least some of the lesser used areas are seeing some light, and in most cases there isn’t overly extensive travel.

This ain’t over yet of course. There are a half dozen quests that I enjoyed out of the 17 and I’d like to go over some of them. Not to mention this is only phase one of three phases in Winds of Change with a total of 42 quests, and I expect the rewards, challenge, and especially the story to improve.

Oh and don’t let the afflicted minion masters scare you, I still had more luck bringing a MM than leaving it out of my party.

Change Is An Understatement

The Ministry of Purity dudes look like this!

The new content patch for Guild Wars has arrived and so far it’s a lot different than War in Kryta. Well, about as different as any Guild Wars content is ever going to get.

I suppose I should explain.

The vast, vast, vast majority of content in Guild Wars is essnetially “go kill stuff”. In my head I refer to it as “Kill Crush Destroy” but nobody ever seems to get the reference.

There isn’t any variety to the quests really, there are few classical Kill Ten Rats quests and some FedEx quests, but really you are just sent out into an instance to go somewhere and kill things. I suppose the varying situations and mobs that oppose you are the real content, analyzing and adjusting builds instead of collecting so and so amount of drops.

I complained that War In Kryta had too little action at one point. That it had too many dialogues with too little work. I stand by that, and at the start of WiK it was quite true. A lot of talk, no action.

Winds of Change is quite different. In fact, change is an understatement. They put it in full reverse, and instead of too much story, there is too little. Instead of too little action, I’ve just done 15 quests with nothing but action.

Don’t get me wrong I’m not passing judgment yet. I need this thing to stick in my craw for a while. It is a bit of a grind though. Where is the middle ground exactly? Apparently it’s hard to find.

There is a lot to do however, and with so little content having come out since 2007, it is a blessing. I welcome the change.

There are of course costumes, an initial set of weapons that can be acquired, and I’m sure more to come.

And I'm not sure I like this wallpaper but here it is!